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[CA11] C70 to Axiom 9 Upgrade
05-17-18, 02:30 PM (This post was last modified: 05-18-18 09:05 AM by Chuck - Raymarine - Moderator.)
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[CA11] C70 to Axiom 9 Upgrade
I think I am going to upgrade my C70 classic to Axiom 9. I see there is an adapter plate for the C70 to the Axiom 9. I currently have my C70 mounted in my dash.

This is for a 28' Sea Ray day boat to run around the Barnegat Bay in NJ. I primarily want to do Fuel Management. I have the Fox Marine Engine monitor for my single engine. I currently have a hummingbird Depth finder (separate). There is a DSM connected to the C70 that is a fish finder that does Depth and Temperature. I am NOT fishing in the boat but like the Depth and Temperature option. Understand that DSM and transducer is probably outdated for the Axiom and will not work with it.

1. Is the footprint depth behind the Axiom 9 smaller then the C70. I have no room to go deeper. I see there are also mounting brackets for a flush type mount.

2. What do I need to get Depth and Temperature. Can I buy the MFD only and buy a transducer the following year since the boat is already in the water? Do I have to make the decision now if I want to add a Transducer or not ?

3. I am also interested in the Dock to Dock routing. Will it route me outside the channel via the fastest route in deep enough water to a waypoint ?

4. I have a Navionics Gold from 2012 in my C70. Would it be cheaper to buy Axiom with no Charts or Lighthouse Charts and do the upgrade option at Navionics because I have purchased in the past with them? I saw some sort of upgrade option if you had purchased with them in the past.

5. What is needed to connect a UNIDEN UM415 to the Axiom to get GPS information for DSC? I currently have a Statalkng to NMEA 0183 converter in my backbone the the C70 uses to get the engine information that I was unsuccessful in using for the C70 to Uniden VHF.

6. Do I need to purchase additional Wires to connect the Axiom to the SeaTalkng Backbone? Does the included with power plug into it ?
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05-18-18, 09:15 AM (This post was last modified: 05-18-18 09:17 AM by Chuck - Raymarine - Moderator.)
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RE: [CA11] C70 to Axiom 9 Upgrade
Welcome to the Raymarine Forum Brad,

Is the currently installed fishfinder transducer operational with regard to both temperature and depth?
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05-18-18, 10:24 AM (This post was last modified: 05-18-18 12:55 PM by Chuck - Raymarine - Moderator.)
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RE: [CA11] C70 to Axiom 9 Upgrade
Yes, I believe it is a DSM30 or DSM300. Probably 30. Boat was purchased used installed in 2010. Its a Transom mounted Transducer.
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05-18-18, 02:03 PM (This post was last modified: 05-18-18 02:54 PM by Chuck - Raymarine - Moderator.)
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RE: [CA11] C70 to Axiom 9 Upgrade
Brad,

Q1. Is the footprint depth behind the Axiom 9 smaller then the C70. I have no room to go deeper. I see there are also mounting brackets for a flush type mount.
A1. Such information may be found within the installation guides for the respective products. See the excerpts below:

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Q2. What do I need to get Depth and Temperature. Can I buy the MFD only and buy a transducer the following year since the boat is already in the water? Do I have to make the decision now if I want to add a Transducer or not ?
A2. Rather than an Axiom 9 MFD, it would be recommended that an Axiom 9 RV MFD be installed. The transducer which is presently interfaced to the DSM may be disconnected from the DSM and then may then be adapted to be interfaced to the Axiom 9 RV MFD's Transducer socket. Should it later be desired to utilize the RV capabilities of the Axiom 9 RV MFD, then a RealVision transducer may be installed and then interfaced to the Axiom 9 RV via a Y-Cable, which would permit continued used of the existing transducer as well for operating at planing speeds.

Q3. I am also interested in the Dock to Dock routing. Will it route me outside the channel via the fastest route in deep enough water to a waypoint ?
A3. The Dock to Dock Autorouting feature only takes into account water depths and attempts to create a route having the shortest distance while meeting the specified constraints. Should depths be deep enough outside of the channel, then the route produced may indeed include legs which are outside of the channel.

Q4. I have a Navionics Gold from 2012 in my C70. Would it be cheaper to buy Axiom with no Charts or Lighthouse Charts and do the upgrade option at Navionics because I have purchased in the past with them? I saw some sort of upgrade option if you had purchased with them in the past.
A4. I am not aware of any such offerings by Navionics. The posted price differential for bundling the Axiom 9 RV MFD with a Navionics+ chart card is $100.

Q5. What is needed to connect a UNIDEN UM415 to the Axiom to get GPS information for DSC? I currently have a Statalkng to NMEA 0183 converter in my backbone the the C70 uses to get the engine information that I was unsuccessful in using for the C70 to Uniden VHF.
A5. It is recommended that the E70196 VHF NMEA 0183 to STng Converter Kit be used to supply DSC VHF radios requiring GPS data from a 4800 BAUD NMEA 0183 source. This backbone component would be installed within the powered and properly terminated SeaTalkng / NMEA 2000 backbone to which the MFD and engine gateway would each be interfaced as spurs.

Q6. Do I need to purchase additional Wires to connect the Axiom to the SeaTalkng Backbone? Does the included with power plug into it ?
A6. Should the backbone have been constructed from SeaTalkng Networking components, then an A06075 39.4in (1.0m) DeviceNet Female to SeaTalkng Spur Adapter would be required adapt the MFD's NMEA 2000 DeviceNet plug to be mated to a spur socket within the backbone.


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05-18-18, 03:38 PM (This post was last modified: 05-18-18 03:58 PM by Chuck - Raymarine - Moderator.)
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Thanks for the Information. That exactly what I needed !
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05-18-18, 03:58 PM
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RE: [CA11] C70 to Axiom 9 Upgrade
You're welcome.
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